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Doreen
06-04-2006, 07:32 AM
Okay, I re-read the series.
I cannot believe Snape is a good guy.
Anyone see Fleur (Phlegm) becoming a larger character?
What about the twins, they are my favs...
Luna & Neville? Love interest or will they be forgotten.
Can she possibly do it justice in one book?
C'mon, I'm just tossing stuff out to get some discussion going, if anyone wants...
I love HP too and have read and re-read the books...
Snape is evil...
I would have a hard time with Fleur becomming a heroine, but evil I could see...
I would love to see the twins use their re-markable talents and cause a lot of problems for Valdomort. I like them too.
Luna and Nelville? I'll have to think about this...They both come from old witch families. Luna despite her spaciness seems to be a strong witch, Nelville needs more self confidence to belive in himself...Okay I could see this she could be the person to bolst him up without intimidating him.
Hugs
Doreen
06-04-2006, 10:00 AM
Do you think Hagrid will die in the next book?
Do you think Hogwarts will close?
Will McGonagall earn Harry's trust? He will need a mentor of sorts, don't you think? If not McGonagall, who? Or none?
Kt'sMom
06-04-2006, 12:01 PM
Great idea, stirring the Harry Potter pot. I'm rereading the series too. I'm 3/4 of the way through Prisoner of Azkaban, but I've read all the books at least twice, some many times.
Here's my two cents....
I think Snape is dark but not necessarily totally evil. He's had several opportunities to harm Harry and he doesn't. He even tries to protect him in Prisoner of Azkaban, though he takes plenty of pleasure in tormenting him in Potions. I see Snape perceived as evil to keep his place in Lord Voldemort's order.
I hope Rowling continues to develop the relationship with Jenny Weasley. I think she is a force to be reckoned with.
I think Harry may find a mentor in Lupin, a link to his father and Black, and a darn good wizard despite his werewolf issues.
I'm also pretty sure Harry carries a Horcrux. From at least book two, Dumbledore tells Harry that some of Voldemort's powers were transferred to him the night his parents were killed and Voldemort defeated. I think V. transferred them, whether he meant to or not. There are six horcruxes- Here's what I think they are ... 1. The Gaunt family ring-destroyed 2. Tom Riddle's diary-destroyed (from book two) 3. the locket (I'm pretty sure it's in Black's house) 4. the snake, Nagini 5. the Hufflepuff chalice and 6. Harry
By Harry being a Horcrux falls in line with Trelawney's prophecy that "neither can survive while the other lives" or something like that. Voldemort will always try to kill Harry to retrieve part of his soul.
Oh, and I really don't think Dumbledore is dead. Too many things don't add up. But I'll leave my opinions and reasons for another discussion.
Sherri B.
Sherri...interesting point about Harry as a horcrux. It would fall in line as "something of Griffindors" in a way. :)
DH and I have been talking about Harry's comment about not coming back to Hogwarts. I think that is to throw everyone off the trail. First of all, the series is titled by years at Hogwarts. I also think Harry will have to go back to Hogwarts for one of the horcruxes. Something about the description of the Room of Requirement in the last book when Harry was hiding Snape's old text that seemed more than necessary, if you kwim.
I am in the middle about Snape. I don't think he's all good, but I'm not entirely convinced he's all bad. He could have taken Harry out in that last battle but he didn't. He did, however, give Harry a valuable lesson that he (Harry) is not ready to face Voldemort. (All the more reason for Harry to return to Hogwarts)
I am actually very disappointed in how Rowling allowed the publishers to dictate the length of the latest book. It is very obvious that she cut corners. On her website, she actually gave a list of things she would reveal in the latest book and she only revealed half of them. I think the last book will have to be a tome in order to actually answer every question she's raised.
Oh...do you think Sirius is really dead? I am wondering if there won't be a portrait of him in Grimmauld Place.
Doreen
06-04-2006, 12:43 PM
I wonder if Harry would dedicate some time/thought/training to find a way to contact/remove people/items from behind the veil.
That would require Harry to get into the Ministry on a regular basis, Percy may come back into play.
I'm obviously overthinking all this stuff.
Auror training is an additional 3 years after graduating Hogwarts (and I don't remember what/if any requirement of NEWT's there were). Hermione could easily become a extremely powerful witch, and Ginny is probably right behind her (bat-boxey hex).
Again, I 'worry' about Hagrid. Also Grawp, how will he factor in?
I see Dumbledore as dead (hope I'm wrong) and Sirius as 'not quite'.
Remus could easily be the next one to go, he's 1/2 way there already. Or Arthur Weasly could go to make it personal for Ron & Ginny.
I still do not see this as a 7 book series. And that's appalling as it would be another 6-8 years before it's finished if it goes 9 books as I think it would.
JJsmom
06-04-2006, 09:38 PM
I think I'll start re reading the last book again... ;)
Doreen...I actually panicked when I read the part about Arthur Wesley getting bit by the snake. As devistating as it was to read about Sirius "dying", it would be so hard for the Wesley's to lose their dad! :( I was freaked about Bill for a while there too.
Lupin is a possibility because of the silver hand that Wormtail has now. I could almost see those two fighting to the death. Tho I would feel horrible for Tonks if that happened. :(
I do think Dumbledore is dead (tho would love to be wrong) because I think it is integral to the plot. Dumbledore is the only wizard that Voldemort fears or feels is his equal. And it is typical for a master to step down/die in order for his apprentice to truly take over.
I'm curious what is going to happen with the House Elves. That is an interesting angle that is a sidestory now (SPEW) but I think will have a fairly important impact somewhere.
Do you think Draco is a Death Eater now? Will he come back to Hogwarts for year 7?
Doreen
06-05-2006, 04:46 PM
Do you think Draco is a Death Eater now? Will he come back to Hogwarts for year 7?
I think he will become a death eater, but somehow it will be up to him to seal Voldemort's (he-who-shall-not-be-named) rise to eternal power and he'll betray him in the end. Meaning Harry will win. Whether it will be a moment of indecision or an outright betrayal I'm not sure, but I bet you $5 (or whatever you use for money in Kuwait) that it will be somehow due to Draco that Harry defeats old moldy-voldy.
JJsmom
06-06-2006, 06:08 AM
Oooooohhhh that's an interesting theory!!!! Draco does waver a lot -- like his conscience is fighting with him.
JJsmom
06-06-2006, 06:07 PM
I'm sorry I'm not contributing much!! LOL
4sweeties
07-05-2006, 02:11 PM
Bit late on this discussion, but my dd and I just reread number 6. I think Harry is a horcrux, Hermoine mentions that the killing curse doesn't leave marks, so maybe voldy didn't want to kill Harry-just use him for a horcrux and the lightning scar is a result. I think the death eaters are all dead already and are imperius' or have taken the draught of the living dead. I don't think Dumbledore is really dead and Snape is good. Also I don't know that the snake is a horcrux but Gryffindor's sword could be, when Dumbledore was showing Harry his memory of Tom Riddle coming to his office asking for a teaching job even though he knew he would be denied, dd memory fades off before riddle leaves the room and harry thought he saw riddle's wand move right before it faded out, maybe he confunded dd so he could do the sword/horcrux thing. One more thing...when ginny and hermoine were guarding snape's office and flitwick came to get snape cause the deatheaters were in the castle ...flitwick was injured when he went into his office...I think snape confunded him because he burst in on him while he was working on something to prevent dd from dying...ok is that a stretch?! Can you tell we just finished it...Jessica doesn't want to hear my theories.....
Shadowknows
04-24-2007, 09:05 AM
I see I am waaaaaay late getting to this thread :D . I am currently reading 'Half-Blood Prince' for the 4th time. I agree, the locket is at 12 Grimmauld Place. If you are like me, my first reading of a book is done quickly because I have to find out what is next and Rowling's writing style makes that possible. So, with subsequent readings, I pick up more of the subtle "clues".
According to an interview with Rowling, Dumbledore is definitely dead. But- his portrait is now in the headmaster's office and the subject's can move from one portrait to another and to their "other" portraits in other locations. So. . . I think Dumbledore will to a degree be an active part. Also, the phoenix is significant.
At any rate, I am looking forward to the next book.
Shadowknows
twokids4me
06-07-2007, 12:59 PM
Dragging this thread out of its slumber as I just came upon it......... :smileyh:
Having just finished the series, its all still pretty fresh in my head. I honestly have no idea about the horcruxes......I did like the idea below that Harry may be one of them though, very thought provoking!!
I simply *adore* Fred & George.......if I were in the series, I would seriously be dating one of them, lol. They are right up my alley. :D I was so proud of those boys when they made their exit from Hogwarts and gave heck to Prof. Umbridge!!! The gents that portray them in the movies are truly well-cast!!! ;)
I was very distraught over the death of Dumbledore, knew it was coming as ds had told me prior to reaching that part, but when it came to the service they had for him at Hogwarts, i had to set the book down and get a good cry out.
I do wonder about Sirius and why he hadn't shown up in a portrait yet???
I detest "Snivellus" Snape!!! I thought all along that he was just pretending to be bad, but now believe he has proved himself otherwise. Althought since he had made the unbreakable with Narcissa, he did have to go thru w/ killing Dumbledore. But still. I also think he is a coward!
I wonder though about Draco a lot..... I think Dumbledore really had him there at the end, Draco did waver and I believe that he could possibly be persuaded by the "other side". I don't think he is as strong & evil as he likes to portray himself.
{sigh} still tapping my little toes waiting on book 7.......really though, i'll be so sad when its all said and done!
Ophelia Payne
06-07-2007, 02:23 PM
I know what you mean! I've decided to re-read book 6 before the next one comes out, to refresh my mind. I'm a little fuzzy on the details of what happened last time. I'm on bedrest, so what else to I have to do?
I'm so excited for the next. Hopefully, we will be able to pre-order it very soon.
BC-blu_sky
06-07-2007, 02:37 PM
I am so glad to see this thread. I am a huge HP fanatic! I make it a point to reread the entire series before a new book comes out. I am currently rereading PoA. Here are some of my thoughts on book 7.
Snape: Te argument that Hagrid overheard between Snape and Dumbledore was DD telling Snap he must kill him to save Draco. DD knew he was dying already from his injury from the ring. Snape had numerous chances to kill Harry as he was fleeing Hogwarts but he did not. I believe you will see that he really is a double agent and working for the good guys in book 7.
Horcruxes: As interesting as a theory it is that Harry might be one, I don't think he is. I think we will all be surprised to find out what the last horcrux is. As for the locket it is no longer in the Black residence. It was they came across it when they were cleaning. It was either thrown into the bag and taken by Kreacher or it was with the stolen goods that Mundungus took.
RAB: This is Regulus Black, Sirius' brother.
Dumbledore's Death: He is dead. He will be in book seven as he is a former Hogwarts Headmaster and they all have their portraits hung in the headmaster's office.
Sirius: I believe, as much as it pains me, that he is in fact dead and will not return. He had to die just as Dumbledore had to die so that Harry could continue this battle on his own.
Who will die in book 7: I don't think that any of the trio will die. I believe that Snape could die and that will be when the truth is revealed about him. I think poor lovable Hagrid will bite the dust and I think that the third character to die will be Voldemort. I believe Draco will become one of the good guys in the end.
Just some of my thoughts.
twokids4me
06-08-2007, 06:27 AM
[QUOTE=BC-blu_sky]
RAB: This is Regulus Black, Sirius' brother.QUOTE]
Excellent deduction! I racked my brains trying to think of who that was and couldn't think of anyone.....I'll bet your right.
You know, I think it took it so hard about Snape killing DD that maybe i was too hasty in my judgement. I'll keep my mind open about theories of what goes on with him in the next book. But I agree with you about Draco.
twokids4me
06-08-2007, 06:28 AM
I know what you mean! I've decided to re-read book 6 before the next one comes out, to refresh my mind. I'm a little fuzzy on the details of what happened last time. I'm on bedrest, so what else to I have to do?
I'm so excited for the next. Hopefully, we will be able to pre-order it very soon.
Go ahead and re-read it, i found it best to get myself all "ready" for the next book. ;)
BC-blu_sky
06-08-2007, 06:32 AM
Excellent deduction! I racked my brains trying to think of who that was and couldn't think of anyone.....I'll bet your right.
You know, I think it took it so hard about Snape killing DD that maybe i was too hasty in my judgement. I'll keep my mind open about theories of what goes on with him in the next book. But I agree with you about Draco.
This is how the locket ended up in Grimwald Place. It is mentioned in book 5. The locket I mean.
BC-DrAussieMom
06-10-2007, 10:47 PM
I read the last book to my 2 month old..... lol!! She loved it and I am ready for the new book.
I have a couple of guesses......
I think that the kids will be leaving (quitting) school, the 5...... Harry, Hermione, Ron, Jenny, and Neville. I think we are going to find out the the "chosen one" is going to be Neville, and he is going to take a big role in the next book.
I think that Draco is going to turn to a good guy, just by the end of the last book.
I do think Harry will die, and I know I will cry.
I read up on the website from the author that we will get a lot of history of Harry's parent sin the next book, and someone will die and it is definately the last book. All lose ends will be tied up (someone will prevail), so it should be interesting.
BC-Christina
06-18-2007, 07:07 PM
Kris, I will go the opposite on some of your predictions
1. Draco will die in this book. He did not do his task from the Dark Lord...kill Dumbledore so he will go on the run in this one and eventually be killed by Voldemorte.
2. I don't think the kids will actually leave school, especially since this is the last year, but they will seek out the remaining Horcruxes and destroy them.
3. Snape is on the side of good and a loyal member of the Order. He will sacrifice his life for Harry's in the finale chapters...his life debt to James will then be paid.
4. Harry won't die, it would make the books very hard for future generations to read if the hero of the story dies in the end.
I think I have read on one of the sites that at least two will die and one that was suppose to die (thinking Snape here) will be spared now (she rewrote the ending). Hagrid is another one that may die as well as a few of the Death Eaters....Longbottom will take care of the one that put the curse on his parents.
I don't think Neville will be the chosen one...why write 7 books about Harry Potter if Neville was the chosen one. Neville will play a key role though in book 7 and the defeat of the Dark Lord.
Anxiously awaiting July 21!!!
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